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2019/06/07 23:57:07 CEST
Dmitry Makarov    
Ensuring that Bakoma works in the future

Hi All, Given the sad news about Vasily, I guess it is possible that all current infrastructure supporting Bakoma (including this site) may be gone anytime soon. If for nothing else, maybe no one will pay for web hosting of sites required for Bakoma to work properly. For example, when I use some package first time, I believe my local copy accesses some ftp server and downloads the missing ingredients. I find Bakoma an incredible piece of software that I'd like to keep using. Does anyone knows whether we, users, are all at risk that one day bakoma will stop working because some remote server will stop working? Thanks for your thoughts on this
2019/06/08 11:47:37 CEST
Ben McDowel    

I agree that Bakoma is the best tool nowadays for processing TeX!

We should strive to keep it alive!

Denis, the cousin of Vasilev (founder of Bakoma) is said to continue its support. But since Bakoma is a sophisticated tool, and since a single person may not be able to get a full command of all functions including supporting users, I agree that we are at risk.

I strongly support allowing Bakoma to become *OPEN SOURCE* code. So that the world will gain from this technological achievement. Of course, if Denis thinks he can pull it off and continue to develop and support the project it is fair to continue to sell it as a copyrighted product; but I suspect such a continued support will necessitate either more than one person, or a person who is dedicated solely ,full time, 24 hours a day, to the project.

Ben
2019/06/13 15:50:27 CEST
Eaton W    

If open source were not possible, would it be possible to sell the business/copyright to those who are interested? I believe many users like us would not mind of contributing to buy it to keep it being developed or make it open source.
2019/06/14 10:12:41 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Buying out the product sounds like a reasonable solution. This would be very helpful to the community of Bakoma users.
2019/06/18 04:05:39 CEST
Dung Le    

I agree. The most feasible approach to maintain BakomaTex is to buy out BakomaTex and transfer it into an open project.
2019/06/18 11:18:43 CEST
Ben McDowel    

How shall we proceed then to buy the product? Any suggestions? I have no understanding in such a process.
2019/06/18 16:10:29 CEST
Dh    

"How shall we proceed then to buy the product? Any suggestions? I have no understanding in such a process." One would find out who is the legal owner of the software, and make them an offer. ICANN WhoIs still lists Vasilij Malyshev as the contact, located in Moscow, Russia, so that's a dead-end: https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=bakomatex.com If one were serious, they'd hire a law firm in the in the US or Europe who does work in Russia, and have them figure out if Basil's estate has been settled, and who (if anyone) now legally owns the software. After an offer was made, a legally binding contract would have to be drawn up by attorneys and signed by both parties. Assuming one (or some group) was willing to pay this money, and then pay whatever it would take to buy rights to the software, there would still be business risks. I suppose if one was willing to spend some thousands of dollars to do all of this, as well as pay a full time software developer to maintain things, fix bugs, continue development etc., all just for the sake of keeping Bakoma Tex alive without any incentive to get a return on their money, it could be done, in principle.
2019/06/18 21:32:59 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Thanks Dh, that is a very good account of what can be done.
2019/06/26 23:52:24 CEST
Eaton W    

Basil's nephew Daniel is not responding at all for quite a while. The only way to buy out is to get a hold of Daniel. If bakoma is made open source, there would be developers who would like to work on the project.
2019/06/27 06:08:28 CEST
Dung Le    

I am sure that transferring BakomaTex into an open project will attract talented developers. It is undebatable that WYSIWYG feature from BakomaTex is top-notch and the most precious from a tex editor.
2019/07/02 17:21:03 CEST
Dh    

Eaton W - Really, the only way for anyone seriously wanting to make a buyout offer for Bakoma is to determine who, if anyone, has the legal rights under Russian law to Basil's software. This is a purely legal issue. Daniel might not have any rights whatsoever, and I wouldn't trust the legal opinion of anyone on this matter who can't be held accountable (which includes Daniel). That is why I suggested the first step would be to hire a lawyer to determine with certainty who actually does currently own the rights to the software.
2019/07/02 18:24:36 CEST
Eaton W    

Sounds reasonable. Perhaps someone who are familiar with the things can set up some crowdfunding.
2019/07/03 13:26:19 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Just for the record, Basil's nephew is not "Daniel" but Denis!
2019/07/20 04:28:20 CEST
dH    

Unlikely Eaton. It would take more time, money, and energy than anyone here seems remotely close to wanting to devote, This is a dead project.
2019/07/20 04:32:47 CEST

‘“Basil's nephew is not "Daniel" but Denis!‘ Basil’s name is not Basil. Denis’s name is not Denis. They have Russian names. .It really doesn’t matter what we call them as long as it’s clear who were talking about.
2019/07/20 13:00:58 CEST
Ben McDowel    

I still believe that Denis, Basil's nephew, can pull something here, or at least will extend the website subscription etc.

Hence, it is hard to see Bakoma as a dead project: simply because the project is already very mature, and there is not much need to revise and maintain the code. The software is working fine with minimum bugs, and just like TeX is a project that is far from "dead", while not really being developed extensively, so does Bakoma could be. This is a typesetting program, and so support should be minimal.

In a year or two I hope that things would become clearer, and we'll either have an open source project or a maintained one.
2019/08/11 03:08:16 CEST
Dh    

Why Ben? You don’t even know if Denis has the skills. Let alone the rights to Basil’s business.. Nor the interest. You don’t even know if he is really Basil’s nephew. If you can’t see this as a dead project, then what would you see as a dead project? The sole maintainer died 11 months ago, and nothing has happened since. Nothing. Zip. That might be a sign.
2019/08/13 15:11:37 CEST
Ben McDowel    

I just got a message from Denis, Basil's nephew, and he states that Bakoma is still supported and even is planned to be updated, though progress may be slow since Bakoma is a complicated project.

I thus believe that Bakoma is alive, and will be maintained and possibly even developed in the future. This is not a dead project since, as I explained before, a TeX editor is unlike other software project in that it does not need fast and recurring updates. Hence, a Tex Project like Bakoma, which is a very mature product, needs mostly to be *maintained* not developed. Therefore, as long as Bakoma retains its server, can be downloaded, and packages can be downloaded, it means that the project is alive.

As for the speculations about Denis, ownership etc., it does not seem crucial. From the perspective of the user, as long as we have a place to download bakoma, purchase a license, and possibly get updates in the future, things are fine. We do not need to verify the identity and legal status of anything. Again, in contrast to other projects, a TeX editor does not need frequent updates, and Basil himself did not frequently update the project, and even when he did the updates were not that crucial.

Regards, Ben
2019/08/14 17:46:57 CEST
Luca Spriano    

Hi, I quite agree with Ben McDowel; but there are updates that are very important. Last year I went to MacOs Mojave and Bakoma did not work at all! I wrote to Basil and he updated bakoma (revision 18/09/28). In the future I do not know if I can update MacOS if I want to be sure that Bakome works.
2019/08/14 17:47:03 CEST
Luca Spriano    

Hi, I quite agree with Ben McDowel; but there are updates that are very important. Last year I went to MacOs Mojave and Bakoma did not work at all! I wrote to Basil and he updated bakoma (revision 18/09/28). In the future I do not know if I can update MacOS if I want to be sure that Bakome works.
2019/08/15 05:10:16 CEST
Eaton W    

Good to hear that Denis hasn't given up. Look forward to seeing an update on Bakoma!
2019/08/18 17:18:48 CEST
Jürgen Dubau    

I also want to express my condolences to Denis. I was working with Bakoma quite a lot and just today learned that Vasiliy has passed away. He was very helpful for me when I had trouble with his software. Hope the project will go on.
2019/08/19 07:50:54 CEST
Jacques Cremer    

Denis, if you are reading this. I think it would help if you communicated with some regularity (once a month or every six weeks?). You do not need to make promises and commitments, but just to remind people that you are thinking about Bakoma. Two or three lines would be enough. If you can give some hints about the evolution of your thinking about its continuation, it would be great, but it is not necessary. Bakoma is very important in the workflow of a number of people, but at this point a) we are beginning to look at alternatives and b) it is impossible for us to recommend to our friends and colleagues to try it out. I think that a bit more communication would mitigate in part these problems.
2019/08/19 15:43:41 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Dear Jacques,

I agree that it would be good if Denis could reassure us in a more engaged manner about what is happening. However, I am not certain this is going to happen. I think we should for now adjust to the the new circumstances where Bakoma is, at least for now, not updated at the same rate as before. Currently we should strive only to stabilize it so that it is *maintained* and the website for downloads is alive.

Regards,
Ben
2019/08/19 16:50:45 CEST

2019/09/12 04:22:28 CEST
dH    

In the entire history of this project, "Dennis" posted 2 sentences 8 months ago. That's all everyone is hanging their hat on. He's obviously not involved. There is absolutely nothing we can do towards striving towards maintenance or keeping the website alive for downloads. If you haven't clued in by now, the project died with its sole maintainer and author. Instead of hoping that the 2-sentence "Dennis" from 8 months ago appears again, it's more realistic to start using the tools that most of the LaTeX world uses.
2019/09/12 04:34:26 CEST
Martin J. Osborne    

ICANN Whois now has no information about the registrant of bakoma-tex.com except for "Mailing Address: Moscow Region, RU" (which doesn't really seem like a mailing address!). The registration has been extended to Sept. 4, 2020, however. Not sure whether taken together, those two bits of information are positive or negative news. Whoever extended the registration certainly seems to want to remain anonymous.
2019/09/12 13:25:13 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Thanks DH for the input. However you are factually incorrect. Denis has been replying and active on several aspects of the Bakoma project. He has simply not done this on this forum. The website license has also been extended. Hence there is a good hope that bakoma is still maintained, if not developed. As explained above ,maintenance is the key now. There is no real need for a big development now because the tool is quite mature.

Best wishes,
Ben
2019/09/13 04:52:55 CEST
Martin J. Osborne    

Ben, Do you know why he does not respond on this forum? Seems like a very bad business strategy!
2019/09/13 13:27:12 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Martin,

I do not know for sure, but I can assume the reason: we (namely, other commenters here) are judging him, and the late Basil, with Western standards, that are completely different to cultural standards in Russia. The whole project of Bakoma was from the start very non Western, in that it is about the content, the technology, done with technical passion, but devoid of any promotion around it. While in the West people appreciate products/business/strategies based on communication and promotion, human interaction etc., in Russia and possibly other place like east Europe, there is also a place for individual projects, made by individuals, with not much promotion and without high communication skills. Basil for example clearly was not proficient in English. He had a very basic English. Possibly his relatives also lack sufficient command of English. But I speculate that the technical proficiency and dedication of Basil--that made the project so successful technologically--came on the expense of other skills.

Also, it is evident that Denis and other people helping to maintain Bakoma may not do so with the same speed that Basil had. Because they simply don't know the code and the technology behind so well, hence they are still learning things.

They may suffer from lack of confidence currently to communicate their ideas, and we need not speculate on their reasons, because this was not a "business" (in the Western sense) from the beginning. We need to wait and see what will happen. But we do have good signs already from Denis, and they are working to maintain and even develop the code further.

Anyway, these are my thoughts.
Ben
2019/09/18 15:36:59 CEST
Tijs H    

Dear All,

Wether you will call this a 'dead project' or not depends purely on your definition of it, and it does not matter too much.
Facts are that:
- Bakoma Tex is indeed an adult project (especially the windows version) that is still functioning and does not require lots of updates per se.
- Denis does not seem to make any effort in trying to communicate with the community.

The only effort Denis has put into this project, seems to be accessing the activation server so that he can keep selling this project and make money out of it.
I think it is not fair to even still sell the product (for such high) price, and claiming that it will have update supports for 2 years.
If he really still wants to sell it (which I find morally questionable ), then he should only offer the non-update version, or inform the purchasers about the current stand of the project (i.e. it is doubtful whether it gets updates at all).

Ben I agree, with the non western approach Basil took, but I'm not sure if this is entirely to blame on the fact that Basil is from Russia.
Even people in Russia like decent GUI's, modern products etc....
Bakoma-Tex could have been so much more, with proper marketing (better name, decent site, better GUI).
Anyways, Basil always was very responsive on the forum and via email, which does not appear to be the case for Denis at all.

So yes we can still use Bakoma-Tex at least for some future time to come, but I think your high optimism you seem to have in Denis, is misplaced.
He is purely making money out of a product that he did not make, and at some point Bakoma will require updates to still function on future Operating System releases.

Kind regards,
Tijs
2019/09/19 11:12:39 CEST
Chen    

I found that license activation is not working well. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?
2019/09/19 11:12:40 CEST
Chen    

I found that license activation is not working well. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?
2019/09/19 23:51:26 CEST
Ben McDowel    

Dear Tijs,

Of course there is a possibility that someone is only dragging the time to make money out of the project. But this is only a speculation. There is certainly also a possibility that you are wrong. As of now we don't know anything for sure, because this is not a usual business, but more of an individual project. So we can only speculate. Time will tell.

Ben
2019/09/30 21:11:27 CEST
Luca Spriano    

n any case I tried to buy Bakoma and the page does not exist anymore! it's impossible for me to buy any Bakome license. I think Bakome does not exist anymore.
2019/09/30 21:11:30 CEST
Luca Spriano    

n any case I tried to buy Bakoma and the page does not exist anymore! it's impossible for me to buy any Bakome license. I think Bakome does not exist anymore.
2019/10/02 04:32:59 CEST
Zhengchao Jiang    

Open source this software to make it alive with Latex!
2019/10/05 09:30:35 CEST
Chen    

I mailed 12 times to highlight the problem about activation BUT get NO reply/response!
2019/10/06 13:27:20 CEST
Brian Cowan    

With the disappearance of the Purchase web page and the difficulties reported about Activation of BaKoMaTeX, I am worrying about keeping mu current version of BaKoMaTeX running. Specifically I fear I may find my installation *disactivated*. The title of this thread is "Ensuring that Bakoma works in the future". So does anyone, who understands these thinks, know 1) whether we might find our installations unusable, 2) if there is a way of protecting against this.
2019/10/07 01:19:52 CEST
Ben McDowel    

The situation is indeed alarming. I don't think that bakoma can become dis-activated though, because the installation and the license are done all on one's local machine, so something on the Web cannot affect this. On the other hand, the question is whether we can install the existing software on *different* (new) machines. I don't know the answer for this at the moment.
2019/10/07 22:46:10 CEST
Tijs H    

Dear,
If you have a working installation of Bakoma tex you should be fine.
Be aware that package downloading is now done via the bakoma website, but you can change this in settings in case the bakoma server goes down. (someone said this earlier i think)
The only problem arises if you want to activate/reactivate bakoma.
Your will then need to make requests to the activation server, which is of course dependent if the bakoma server is online.
As of now, the bakoma activation server is still online.
However, you are limited in the number of devices you can have bakoma installed on (as it has always been).

If you have troubles activating right now, it is very likely that in one way or another the server 'thinks' you went over this limit.
I don't want to get into legal troubles but a crack or third party activation server should be doable to make for me.
Best would just be if Denis would get involved....
2019/10/08 02:26:37 CEST
Chen    

Hi Tijs, I just installed Bakoma for the third device I bought recently and the activation is not workable; it showed me the limit is exceed. Maybe the limit for activation has been reduced to 2 or 3, but it is not in the case before.
2019/10/08 02:26:40 CEST
Chen    

Hi Tijs, I just installed Bakoma for the third device I bought recently and the activation is not workable; it showed me the limit is exceed. Maybe the limit for activation has been reduced to 2 or 3, but it is not in the case before.
2019/10/08 02:26:42 CEST
Chen    

Hi Tijs, I just installed Bakoma for the third device I bought recently and the activation is not workable; it showed me the limit is exceed. Maybe the limit for activation has been reduced to 2 or 3, but it is not in the case before.
2019/10/08 02:26:56 CEST
Chen    

Hi Tijs, I just installed Bakoma for the third device I bought recently and the activation is not workable; it showed me the limit is exceed. Maybe the limit for activation has been reduced to 2 or 3, but it is not in the case before.
2019/10/08 02:37:01 CEST
Babai    

Should we create an internal mailing list / telegram group / whatsapp group just in case this website stops working someday? At least we would be able to contact each other for unofficial support in absence of any official support. However, I am not sure about the privacy implications of disclosing our contact details here. If anyone has any other ideas, please feel free to chip in.
2019/10/08 03:20:15 CEST
Martin J. Osborne    

I think an internal emailing list is a very good idea. I suggested it (on the "Project abandoned?" thread) when the status of the project became unclear. Three people responded. I don't want to list their email addresses here without their permission, but I'm happy to add anyone else's name to the list --- or to contribute my address (martin.j.osborne@gmail.com) to anyone else who wants to start a list.
2019/10/08 03:21:23 CEST
Martin J. Osborne    

Chen --- The activation limit has been 2 for some time now, I believe.
2019/10/08 03:29:39 CEST
Chen    

Hi Martin, I just sent you a email. Please have a check!
2019/10/08 03:32:00 CEST
Babai    

Hi Martin, I have also emailed you regarding the internal mailing list. Hopefully, this shall preserve a mode of communication in case the website goes down. Best regards
2019/10/24 01:51:23 CEST
Dung Le    

The purchase page is now available again.
2019/10/24 02:50:15 CEST

I checked the price. It has been increased. Am I right?
2019/10/24 04:04:54 CEST
Martin J. Osborne    

No, I don't think so --- I think the price is the same as it was last year.
2019/10/24 18:41:33 CEST
Ben McDowel    

The prices stay precisely the same as before to my best recollection.

Also, it's nice that at least a news item announcing the crash and its fix has been added to the list.
2019/10/25 12:40:58 CEST
d893ea462a84ae97734232f    

Hi: By the way. Is there any new about the purchase page working again? What does it means? Does the project continue working? The official date for buying it is October 28. jpeinado
2019/10/25 17:06:29 CEST
Tijs H    

It means nothing for the project. It only shows the determination of Dennis to keep selling the project (i.e. he fixes the purchasing page and even making an announcement about it) and the lack of interest in providing any updates.
2019/10/25 17:24:40 CEST
d893ea462a84ae97734232f    

Are you sure Tijs H?. I ask you this because it could be something strange that for example I could buy a Bakoma license for two years and I could have a problem for a new version of Mac OS X, and Dennis could not support the software to solve the problem. Jpeinado
2019/10/25 20:17:42 CEST
Tijs H    

Dear Jpeinado,
We can not be sure of anything.
We know that Denis initially had the plan to study the source code and see if he could maintain the project.
As we are now 1 year away from the last Bakoma update (provided by Basil), and Denis did not provide any updates on the status I think it is likely that if some OS update breaks Bakoma, Denis cannot provide a fix.

Yes, I also find it very strange that Denis is selling this 2 years version....
2019/10/28 11:45:26 CET
d893ea462a84ae97734232f    

Dear Tijs H Thank you very much for you to explain me the state of Bakoma. By the way. I can't change to my NIK, in the "From field": d893ea462a84ae97734232f is fixed
2019/10/31 08:02:20 CET
Dung Le    

I don't know why but for the Student License without Upgrades, the price in the purchase website (https://order.shareit.com/cart/add? vendorid=17114&PRODUCT[156437]=1&PRODUCT[300649115]=1&PRODUCT[300649116]=1&PRODUCT[300649117]=1&PRODUCT[300648 817]=1&PRODUCT[137022]=1&PRODUCT[135567]=1&PRODUCT[135896]=1&backlink=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bakoma- tex.com%2Fmenu%2Fabout.php) is 66 EURO, which is higher than 55 EURO, the price mention in bakoma purchase website (http://www.bakoma-tex.com/menu/purchase.php).
2019/10/31 11:48:25 CET
Tijs H    

Dear Dung Le,
The price on the website has always been without taxes.
Therefore, the actual price you have to pay is 19% higher because tax is now included.
2019/12/08 15:40:56 CET
Sascha hankele    

Hallo, I am a very frequent (daily) user of BaKoMa Tex. It is very sad, that Vassily left us about a year ago. It would be really interesting, what exaktly happened to him :( 1. I am very thankfull, that Denis keeps the servers up and running. 2. What are we going to do, if the servers shut down and installation isn't working anymore? I'm already a member of the mailing-list. 3. Directly at Denis: PLEASE MAKE THIS SOFTWARE OPEN SOURCE, if you can't maintain it by yourself. And if you are willing to maintain it: Please tell us :) 4. Does anybody know a good(!) alternative which supports real live updating Latex under Windows? If servers are going down - we can't do anything with bakoma tex anymore. That's for sure... Best wishes and I hope that bakoma tex is going to survive.
2019/12/08 18:13:17 CET
Ben McDowel    

Sascha,

I don't know of any alternative to Bakoma. No other true WYSIWYG tool for latex is available on the market.

However, I don't think that one needs the server to work so to be able to use Bakoma locally.
Best wishes,
Ben
2019/12/09 15:51:15 CET
89780a16    

I found out a few days ago. For mac users, try: https://compositorapp.com/ I'm not associated with the project.
2019/12/13 20:28:58 CET
Sascha hankele    

Dear Ben, I think you are correct, that bakoma will continue to work, as long as we don't have to reinstall it. If the Licence-Server goes away, there will be a Problem :( Even if development won't really go on, I'd like to use bakoma in the long run. Especially as there isn't any viable alternative. I still hope, that Denis will give his uncle's fabulous work to the public. It is really sad, that he doesn't say a thing anymore. I hope there will be a bakoma-community in the future :)
2019/12/22 02:17:00 CET
dH    

Ain't gonna happen folks. Most of the world of professionals who use latex to publish don't rely on Bakomtex, so there is life beyond this dead project.
2019/12/22 12:46:04 CET
Tijs H    

Of course there is life beyond this project
I suppose most of the users will still be able to typeset documents without any problem in a "regular LaTeX editor".
BaKoMa TeX only highly improves efficiency in writing these documents (being able to see a live preview, scroll through it and fix a typo so quickly without having to search in the source, etc....)

The fact that most of the world professionals don't rely on it has many reasons, among which the poor marketing (Presenting yourself as a wysiwyg editor in LaTeX is a bad idea since LaTeX is designed to be the opposite. Note how this website looks... The high entry price you have to pay etc..)

However, if it is indeed officially a 'dead project' then it is only fair that Denis publishes the Source Code.
There is no reason why the amazing work of Basil should go to waste.
I'm sure that many people in the TeX community (including me) are very eager to see the implementation details of BaKoMa.
2019/12/23 00:45:57 CET
Ben McDowel    

Tijs H,

The true answer is obviously neither that this is a "dead project" nor that there will certainly be an update in the near future. The correct answer is that we don't know at the moment. We can only hope the source code will be published eventually, or maybe that even Basil's relatives can actually salvaged the project.

As for your points about the uniqueness of Bakoma I completely agree. This is a unique project, with a brilliant technology, but with not much publicity, for better or worth.

Best Wishes, Ben
2019/12/31 07:47:33 CET
Theorist    

If you're having license activation issues, I suspect you can get help through digitalriver.com customer service, since I believe they handle the activation: https://www.findmyorder.com/store?Action=DisplayEmailCustomerServicePage&Env=BASE&Locale=en_US&SiteID=findmyor
2020/01/06 10:39:25 CET
ilker Kocyigit    

I agree it would have been great if it becomes an open project. However such a task requires a lot of motivation, energy etc. To be reallistic I think it is a very difficult task even after the family agrees (unless there is already someone who is familiar with the code). I am using both LyX and Bakoma. I mostly moved to LyX after learning about so called backward/forward searches. It is not exactly like Bakoma but works for me...
2020/02/01 19:44:53 CET
Brian Cowan    

I can't be the only one who is getting twitchy about the future of BaKoMaTeX. As we move towards the second anniversary of Basil's passing, the orders for upgrades will be drying up. This will result in a steadily decreasing income stream and the danger that Denis will decide the project is no longer profitable. Without being inflammatory, I wonder what we can do to mitigate this potential disaster. With best wishes to the BaKoMaTeX community.
2020/02/01 21:22:22 CET
Zetrov    

Just put all the source code into the GitHub or just provide a zip download link. Maybe just upload them into google driver. Make things public can save the life-work of your uncle!
2020/02/05 16:28:03 CET
Eaton W    

Denis is selling the project now.
2020/02/12 11:56:06 CET
Francesco Manzali    

What about creating a gofundme or something, buying the project and making it opensource?
2020/02/12 19:22:09 CET
Ben McDowel    

Francesco, this is a great idea. How do we go about doing this?
2020/02/12 20:05:46 CET
Eaton W    

second
2020/02/13 11:22:00 CET
Jacques Cremer    

Before doing this, you better be sure that there is a core of volunteers dedicated to maintaining and improving Bakoma-TeX - the interface could be improved; the documentation is not good; it would be nice to have collaboration instruments à la Overleaf, etc. Otherwise, we are better off with a proprietary product.
2020/02/14 16:24:04 CET
Sascha hankele    

I would be willing to spend money to make it open source. For me it would be enough, if the software stays usable with some minor improvements here and there. If servers go offline, there's no chance of reinstalling bakomatex, even if you bought it. And that's really rude...

Maybe universities could be interested, too. It all depends on how much the project costs. But I think it isn't worth too much, because without maintaining it, it becomes completeley worthless within the next 1 or 2 years.

So all in all, I think Denis should be very happy, if he get's any money for it at all. Crowdfunding it would be a good choice and a fair deal.

@Francesco Manzali: Contact Denis and ask him about crowdfunding. I woult spend some money to keep bakomatex alive.
2020/02/15 03:21:01 CET
Francesco Manzali    

Well, I think that the priority right know should be to gain access to the source code and upload it somewhere public, securing it for the future. This will avoid the prospect of losing this technology for what would be a very long time. Then the problem would shift to provide critical bugfixes, which should require only a limited amount of resources. At last comes the idea of actually providing updates with new features. Personally I have some experience in programming, and as I use Bakoma almost every day to take notes in real time during classes, I imagine that I would try to at least mantain it usable. @Sascha hankele I have written at bakomatex@gmail.com and proposed a crowfunding campaign. I will update you with the response.
2020/02/17 11:30:02 CET
Dung Le    

What do you think if we send a letter to the companies owning other LaTex editors such as overleaf, LyX, Texmaker, TeXStudio to inform them about the potential of Bakoma. In this way, they may consider buying Bakoma and integrate WYSIWYG feature from Bakoma into their products.
2020/02/18 23:56:07 CET
Trajano Costa    

Is there a way to store the registration (licensing on computer) so that in the future we can use bakoma without need to access the server to register?
2020/05/16 01:11:17 CEST
Dung Le    

From https://compositorapp.com/, I found that this is a great WYSIWYG LaTeX Editor with polished UI. It's unfortunate that it only on macOS at the present. I'm a Windows user. Just $29/1 licence: All purchases include lifetime updates. Buy once, get all updates for free, major version updates included. Has anybody tried this one? It has 30 days of trial without limitations.

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